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  1. Katherine Sas

    Now that I’ve finished my re-read of The Left Hand of Darkness I can catch up with this! Very interesting parallels. A few things struck me:

    – The concept of “wei wu wei” reminds me of my very favorite WH Auden quote: “Coming out of me living is always thinking, / Thinking changing and changing living….” Oh how true that is.

    – Not sure that I agree with De Casseras that “to desire not to desire is wisdom” – I think Lewis’ concept of Joy as a profound sense of desire runs too deeply within my own experience – but that is a very profoundly Eastern/Buddhist idea, isn’t it?
    – I hadn’t thought of Estraven’s maxims as Taoist, but now that you point it out that makes a lot of sense. The wisdom he displays throughout the story was pretty much my favorite thing about it.

    • Yeah, I didn’t consider Estraven as particularly Taoist (any more so than any other character in the book) when I first read it either, but after reading Le Guin’s version of the “Tao” it’s almost too obvious not to notice. There are sentences that could practically be swapped from to the other without notice.

      As for the “to desire not to desire is wisdom” thing, I chose that line mostly because its turn of phrase was very similar to that of the Toaist maxims. In concept, I think BDC and CSL are almost certainly talking about different types of desire. In “Surprised by Joy,” CSL refers to unfulfilled desire for something that we’ve never experienced (nor can we experience) in the physical realm; BDC is talking about explicitly physical desires, basically on an Epicurean level. His point is that our (misplaced) desires tend to make us miss real opportunities. For example, he writes a couple lines later, “We reject the pennies because we covet the gold pieces.” He talks about how people are always reaching toward something that can’t be reached, but temporally vs. CSL’s other-dimensionally: “To-morrow, that million-spired mirage-city toward which the soul of man forever wends its way; To-morrow, with myrrh and spice in her casket, her fingers tipped with healing ointment for the wounds inflicted by this unromantic, calendared to-day—to-morrow can be won only by wooing to-day, by soaking up the past and future into an eternal present.” The presentness, the looking at the immediate rather than desiring some eternally potential but never actual future, is definitely an Eastern idea.

      As for agreeing with one or the other (or both)…I agree with CSL that many people certainly feel a certain unfulfilled desire which they want to fulfill, but I’m not sure calling that desire “Joy” is particularly helpful. In fact, it’s downright Carseian (as in James Carse, who wrote “Finite and Infinite Games”), appropriating a term and then redefining it in a way that is almost exactly opposite as it is normally understood. So while I might agree with the underlying idea, I think it could have been presented another way. In the same vein, I do agree with BDC that there is a certain value to focusing on the present moment rather than the future—mostly. I don’t, however, think it’s bad to have goals or plans or, even, desires, so long as you recognize that things don’t always work out the way you want them to and are willing to roll with them when the future becomes the present.

      DISCLAIMER: It’s been awhile since I read CSL’s “Surprised by Joy.” While I did my best to do some quick research and remind myself of the concepts he presents in that book, I may have misinterpreted or misremebered his position somewhat.

      • Katherine Sas

        No, I think it’s fair that they are talking about different things, and thus aren’t necessarily at odds. For Lewis I think it would come to down certain desires being… ahem… undesirable, but not necessarily negating the value of all desire, which can be a pointer towards something greater. But then I may be taking BDC’s comments out of context and mischaracterizing them. But I do think the wish to let go of all desires, material or otherwise, is very eastern – it’s the basic concept of Nirvana.

        I personally like his use of the word “Joy” because it points to the idea that the desire itself is as desirable (if not moreso) than the fulfilling of it, but I can see how it might be misleading.

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